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Mar 3 2010 8:48AMby lucci323
jamminjoe66
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Hot Stove Talk

Free Agents

It's realistic that the Pirates could go out & spend $20M on FA's this year {They won't do it} but, It could get 3 top line players. Let's have a vote what 3 legit FA's would you want to see signed & for how much each? Remember $20M.

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lucci323
03-03-10 8:48 AM
okay Good!! i apologize, but im glad we're on the same page!

arizonabruce
03-02-10 2:57 AM
rrit1955 is correct.

rrit1955
02-28-10 9:59 AM
lucci, I don't think Arizona Bruce was lookiing at the teamas a negative, but more along the expectations of some of oour more optimistic fans. He repeats exactly what you are talkiing about in that there will be changes, which is a natural occurence when you have the minor league system iin place to allow for these changes.

lucci323
02-26-10 12:45 PM
Arizona Bruce, You need to realize that good teams with options in the minor leagues often promote at least three players expected to be in their core. In addition, the other 5 players you mentioned only show that the Pirates depth is becoming more competitive, and should be looked upon as a positive... NOT a negative. Look at any other successful organization, and notice that the examples you used are viewed as a normal circumstance...

Every competitive organization has players in their AA and AAA levels that are Big League ready.

arizonabruce
02-24-10 1:26 AM
The playoffs this year is nothing but a fantasy. The thought that the Pirates will not be trading some experience for some youth at the deadline is comical.

Please realize this team has 3 players in the organization that will not be playing on the opening day roster yet are anticipating to be added to this roster early summer with thought they will be added to the roster core. In addition, there are at least 5 other players within the organization at the minor league level that will be considered core players on the Pirates within 3 seasons.

The most important thing that happens this season is that the results on the field indicate that rock bottom has occurred and that the pendulum is swinging to the other side.

PiratesSteelersPens
01-26-10 9:33 AM
Lancem, I'm not saying that they would trade for them now, it's when they're at the top of their game and hopefully producing so that other clubs will take a shot at them. This is the philosophy that management has held, and it is a completely viable solution.

bigvalley
01-22-10 10:20 AM
We still lack the straw that stirs the drink. The bullpen has been upgraded, there are good role players and there is promise in the minors. With only a $36MM dollar payroll there should be room for that player. They weren't available via free agency this winter so a trade must be considered for that piece. I just don't see the offense being able to get very much done.

arizonabruce
01-20-10 11:53 PM
No matter how small all these recent deals and free agent signings, I find them all making good baseball sense for the organization. I am looking forward to the future 2 or even 3 for 1 deal to add an additional quality player to the organization. Is it possible a left handed reliever could be added to the mix?

arizonabruce
01-18-10 10:04 PM
Bixler for anybody (Brito) will turn out to be a good trade for the organization. Brito's 2009 offensive numbers are encouraging.

maz2001
01-13-10 5:30 PM
This site is crazy. I wanted to contact the owners of this site. When you click contact us there isn't any contact information. How can one make contact?

lancem
01-05-10 10:15 AM
come on piratessteelerspens,lets start the new year right.who is going to give away any talented prospects for two players like cedeno who has a career .240 batting average or crosby who has a career batting average of .238?

PiratesSteelersPens
01-05-10 1:48 AM
That's not a bad thing. Iwamura would be good trade bait to acquire more talented minor leaguers. Same thing goes for Crosby/Cedeno. The minor leagues are what is going to make the Pirates good, and if we could trade any of those guys for more talent it would be a win.

lancem
01-03-10 5:50 AM
i can not believe you don't know the difference between run producing and batting average.like wilson, iwamura isn't a run producer and that is what the pirates lack the most.young had almost as many rbi's last year in almost 300 less at bats than iwamura had in the only year he was able to play the full season which was his best year.iwamura had over 600 ab's and had less than 50 rbi's.a serious impact! your joking,if the pirates are 15 games under 500 in juy he will be the first to go in a trade.

PiratesSteelersPens
01-02-10 10:56 PM
NoNo run production? He has a career average of .281. If he stays healthy, he can be a real threat. It's a risk you have to take with anyone. Jack Wilson was injured the majority of the time he was here the last few years, but everyone objected to him being traded. If Iwamura stays healthy, he will make a serious impact.

lancem
01-02-10 7:44 PM
kyle stark said that alverez will be given a real chance to win the 3rd base job this spring.the pirates had to agree to pay iwamura close to 5 million dollars before the trade could be complete.trading a rookie pitcher who pitched in 73 games and had an era of 4.01 for a slap hitter with no speed and no run production who in 3 years has missed a ton of games due to injuries is the only thing that was lousy.

PiratesSteelersPens
01-02-10 7:12 PM
Lancem, why play Alvarez at third now? Have you ever heard of developing a player? If he is rushed in too quickly it could alter his abilities and damage his entire career. When he is ready is when they will bring him up. Oh, and by the way, they didn't sign Iwamura, they traded a lousy relief pitcher for him.

CurseOfRandyMarsh
01-01-10 11:01 AM
Good morning & Happy New Year 2010 to all Bucco fans. A new year is the time to be optimistic. So I will remind everyone that there are only 273 days left on Neal H's contract. It's also the time for predictions. I predict that Mr. Nutting will use his revenue sharing $ to erect a statue of himself. Instead of putting the statue at ground level like Wagner, Clemente & Stargell, Mr. Nutting will put the staute on the roof of PNC Park with the inscription: "Give me your poor-fielding, your weak-hitting, your marginally-talented players yearning to make the major league minimum."

lancem
12-31-09 6:20 PM
don't you mean spending money to just say your spending money in signing iwamura.jamminjoe i'm the one who has been saying not to sign free agents and play alverez at 3rd and clement at 1st.its about what will they do if these young players become stars.

jamminjoe66
12-31-09 4:28 PM
Lancem spending money just to say you'll spend it {Kendall $60M ring a bell} doesn't work.

In reality these are the steps they have to take. You mention Brewers. Fielder, Braun, Hart & Hardy were all brought up threw there system. then they added. That's what we need from Alverez, Tabata, McCutchen, Jones & Hernandez

jamminjoe66
12-31-09 4:19 PM
I liked McLouth, but I also didn't mind the trade. He was at peek value & over rated as an All-Star. Let's face it he only made it because the Pirates had to have one.

If Alverez, Tabata, McCutchen & Jones turn out to be the real deal & couple of the Pitchers like Lincoln & company turn out to be good we may not need to sign that big FA.

Let's hope the Nats pass on the "Phenom" in the next draft. One more bad season to let these kids have as many AB's as possible isn't a bad thing. I hear the 2011 draft is loaded.

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